Category: Let's talk
I just want to see other people's opinions on this, but do you think that the ignore feature on here shouldn't exist? The reason I didn't post this on the suggestions board is because I know the ignore feature will always be there for others, and also because this board topic is intended for people's opinions on this. I personally don't think the ignore feature should exist, and the reason for that is because in the real world, you cannot ignore people like you can on the zone. I will go so far as to say that the ignore feature is just taking the lazy way out of things when people don't like you and they call you an ass or something like that. I mean, sure, it hurts, but would you press the ignore button in the real world? No. You can't do that. So what do you all think about this?
Facebook has 'Hide' Twitter has 'Block' lots of online places use similar features. Though I personally only use them on nonhuman bots, though I occasionally mistake a human for a really poorly done script.
I think the Ignore feature needs to stay right where it is, for Leo's reason as well as others. That way the asshole's quicknotes don't keep coming through while you're having an inteligent, enjoyable conversation or just browsing the boards. And believe me, there are plenty of people who if there was in fact an Ignore button in real life would indeed press it.
I think the ignore feature should stay like is, because there are some annoying people and I agreew ith the last post. The only thing I would suggest that we stop ignoring is the board posts. What the point in asking a opinion when when he/she that created the board is ignoring you? What if it's really valuable information? See, some people and I may not like each other on here, but um...some advice can be very valuable to that person, even though we can't stand each other.
My view of the ignore feature is this:
For quicknotes/private messages I think that the ignore feature has a place, as leo said above most sites have similar facility to block/hide users, so that's fair enough if you're being harrassed by someone. I do think however that people are often too quick to put others on ignore, when generally if you just don't respond to someone's qn's they'll usually go away anyway. There are some prolific private quicknoters on here who I've found just go away if you just don't respond to them.
In terms of ignoring peoples' board posts I have always mademy views on that clear enough that ignoring someone's board posts just leads to disjointed board topics and IMO has no place. I was here when tat element of the ignore feature was introduced, and ironically one of the posters with the most people on ignore was one of the most prolific and agressive board posters here, and he ignored everyone who diisagreed with his views, so went on to post his topics, while having all the respondants on ignore. Strangely enough he seemed to know what they were all saying, which meant he was clearly reading the boards before logging in so he could read their responses and then maintaining the pretence of ignoring them.
As for person watch, personally I think this should be an op-in/opt-out feature like the randomiser, rather than one where someone has to ignore everyone "watching" them. But while it isn't such a feature the ignore feature has its place there too.
Also, I think that periodically perhaps someone should go through the ignore lists and that if an account has been disabled or a user hasn't been logged in for a specific time all those they are ignoring should be cleared. It means nothing to be being ignored by 100 people, for instance, if 99 of them have been banned or haven't logged in for the past three years.
Also, if you see that; that person that your ignoring isn't going to talk to you anymore, then why not take them off after some months and at least see how that person is with everyone else...I mean you can talk to someone while they are having a bad day and the other goes and thinks well...that person isn't someone that is nice or isn't my type, so let's ignore him/her when maybe the next day you would find that in fact, you do both have the same things in common...maybe not being a smart ass, but other things other than that.
lakeria, I suggested that once - that we have an ignore amnesty where we take everyone we're ignoring off ignore for, say, a week, but there didn't seem to be any takers..
Personally I don't ignore anyone. For me it's as easy to not read someone's qn's as it is to put them on ignore. And the "perverts" of the zone tend to get bored if you don't respond to their advances so although they message me maybe once every time they log in I really can't get too wound up about "hi" or "do you like to swim?" (naming no names of course. :D.
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i think, like the rest of you that ignoring people's board posts is stupid. i mean... why would you want to?. if you have a topic that someone knows a lot about, you will miss the anser.
as for ignoring qns, i think people here are too quick to do it. like clare said, we should take everyone off ignore for a week, and i think we'd all be surprised that just because 1 person said something wrong to someone else, actually we do get on more than we think. going back to what i said about the boards, you could always miss a useful qn.
as far as person watch goes, i agree that it should be opt in. when you first see the page there should be a check box " allow this feature?". if you uncheck it, no one can watch you. kind of scary when people start ading me and i'm like what?.
as for the other suggestion about going through the ignore list, that's great idea. in my ignore list alone, i've got at least 2 banned users, and a few that don't log in so i think that would be great.
You guys have some valid points here and I do agree that some people are too quick to put people on ignore. When I first started here 2 years ago, I was one of those people. I was pretty sensitive and din't like the zone drama, so I kept telling people there to be nice to each other and to stop all the drama that was going on. There were a lot of people that I put on ignore because, when I told them to stop, they would get mad and tell me to put them on ignore, so I did. But now that I've grown up and matured a little, I have taken every one of those people off ignore. Right now I don't have anyone on ignore.
I do think that to an extent the ignore feature puts the onus on the user being offended rather than making people think that actually, they shouldn't be setting out to offend others.
For instance, the top most ignored poster is being ignored by a staggering 423 users which is 19% of the active community. Should there not come a point when someone should question whether it is in the interests of such a community to have users that are so disliked and offensive that they are actively ignored by almost 1 5th of the members? Is it right that it is the user that has to decide to take offence while the offender can continue to upset people until he/she is ignored by them? After all the upset has to be caused in order for the user to decide to put the poster on ignore..
I also wonder whether it is in the best interests of everyone to have the stats on display as this can lead to either:
people kind of wearing their ignore stat as a badge of honour and striving to get as many people ignoring them as possible,
or users making judgements based on an ignore stat rather than making their own judgements of and individual..
i've kind of agreed with there being ignore for quicknotes and maybe pm's but board posts i've never unerstood. as for person watch, i once put out there that it could be like you get a notification saying so and so would like to add you to their person watch list. do you want to allow it? that way you could know they're watching you, but at the same time stop random people from doing so
Yeah. I definitely think Person Watch should be either opt in, or opt out. As for the ignore feature, I think it should stay as it is, with the exception of the board posts. Personally, I'll go through my ignore list, and remove people whose username doesn't absolutely make me cringe when I see it. Usually, it turns out okay. Here's a thought, though. I think there should be a confirmation dialogue that comes up when you hit the ignore link. this would prevent accidental ignoreing, which happens quite a lot.
Aw, Jessica, I never thought of that...maybe we should use this suggestion for once?
See, I notice that they have a suggestion board and people make plenty of suggestions, but nothing is being done. Just saying and it is true...so maybe one of these ignore thinggies that was mentioned would work.
To be blunt, both the people that have coding access lead rather busy lives these days. So unless someone that's rather good at PHP wants to vollunteer themselves, suggestions that take programming just aren't going to happen, at least not very quickly.
2 people band ignoring you? I have aproximately 40 users who have been banned or who are not ignoring anything on my list.
and yes Like I think Claire said, there was a time I used to try and get people to ignore me, I used years ago to enjoy winding up others and becoming at that time the most ignored user on the zone.
I have around another 35 users who've not logged int the zone for over a year, so I often wonder, what is the point of these people still being listed there. however the feature has it's uses for those who need it, so I wouldn't say take it away except for the boards.
The ignore feature is a godsend. The end.
It certainly is nice to be able to log in without worrying who might be bothering me this time. Lol.
Again, you all have some valid points. I think one reason why they have board posts on the ignore feature is because some board posts are drama-filled and some people apparently don't like it. lol I could give many examples, but most people on here already know about those examples, so I won't post them on here.
Well, yeah, but if you find a particular board post offensive, you could just skip to the next one. I think the difference there is that a board post isn't a direct contact method.
Miah is right. We see the suggestions on the boards, and if we could, we'd implement some of them. but that's not within our power as CL's, so people just need to know that such things are either not going to happen at all, or not in the near future.
I agree with MissM. I love the ignore feature, on a variety of levels. I used it plenty before I was a CL, and it came in very handy. When I was brought on as CL, I took everyone off of it, since I new that ignoring people was not conducive to my position as staff. And Claire is correct, that most of the time, if you simply don't respond to someone, they will go away. Still, it's a great feature to have, for users, and for us as staff. We'd have to mediate an even more staggering amount of drama than we already do if it did not exist. This way, if people don't like someone, they can ignore them, end of story, at least most of the time.
Michael, I still think your view on this is a bit odd, but that's just me. As Leo pointed out, any social networking site has a feature like this. You are correct, we cannot ignore people in the real world. So why not do it where we can?
And, who's to say we don't ignore people in the real world? Ever tune somebody out? Granted some of us are better at that than others ... but still
yeah, exactly.
I won't talk to someone I don't like. I'm that way. but I don't like making it advertised by ignoring or doing something against them.
don't reply to that person ... he or she will fed up with you and will move on.
I've actually disabled the ignoring link in the qn.
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You know, that's one thing that I didn't think about when I wrote this. You can hide the ignore link in your account. I completely forgot about that. lol
So with that being said, I guess you all can disregard this board topic, because there is a way you can mhide the ignore link. lol But in all honesty, from all of these points being made by a lot of people, I realize that I kinda went too far with this. lol
By all means, if you'd rather not use it, there's no reason you should have to, but for those of us who appreciate it, it's good to have. I don't think we should disregard this board topic, since this was mostly opinion-based, and I'm glad you brought it up.
I don't think the ignore feature should exist; that's just my opinion, though. if I wanna ignore someone, I simply will tune them out. I don't need a button to do that for me; that isn't the case in real life, so why should it be elsewhere?
their was a time when i had a lot of people on ignore, but removed most of them in the end, as i grew up, and really couldn't be bothered being afended by writing on a computer, (plus i don't come here much these days to worry anyway). i mean, let's face it, that's all it is, just someone writing words on a screen to see what reaction they can get out of you. yeah, words do hurt, but you'll never meet the person writing them, so why even give the person satisfaction by reacting badly? as for thoes individuals who like to "hit on" anyone and everyone, telling them your not interested and to go away usually works. having the ignore feature for private qn's and even voice and private mail is a good thing, but like has been said here already, ignoring board posts just interrupts the appinions and flow of the board as a whole. as for person watch, i agree that it should be like the randomizer...an opt in or out thing.
i'm not saying that the ignore feature shouldn't be around for thoes of us who feel that it's a necessary thing to have, as we're all different, and can only deal with things in our own ways. just that ignoring someone is easier than putting someone on ignore. i know none of us log in to be anoyd or hit on all the time, and maybe putting someone on ignore is a way to let a person know that you don't like how they talk to you, but some people just put others on ignore just because. it could be just your screen name, for example, that gets you on someone's list...who knows the minds of others.
Chelsea, that was exactly my point. Glad to see that someone else has the same opinion on this as I do, though the rest of you do have valid points as well.
Interesting: so the entire Facebook population who has access to Ignore posts / users is immature? and also the entire Twitter population?
Personally I never use it on either, but have a postdoctoral marine biologist brother who uses it repeatedly on some omg-texting younger relatives who post whenever they wash their hands.
It's useful for removing clutter at times.
I guess I can't say I never use Ignore: I blocked the Hearts, Farmville, and whatever other furry cutesy fuzzy things the younger female population plays on and then pushes the brag button so everyone sees it, or sends a 'gift' to everyone ... people ignore things in real life all the time: Caller ID, not answering the door when Inspector Numbnuts comes by to sell that nasty cleaner in a bottle or whatever is new in the neighborhood.
i was only referring to ignoring on here. of course, block, or whatever any other sight calls it, has it's place, specially if your not interested in reading how someone's farm needs mor workers, or that someone wants you to be a part of this, or that. besides, not seeing thoes things makes it easier to read something like facebook, for example, even with the mobile sight, it's still a wall post, or status update, and can get in the way.
I wish I had an ignore button when the religious nuts come to my door, although, sometimes it's more fun to play with their heads. haha.
The world actually does have an ignore feature sort of. You can tell someone not to show up at your house, you can even get a legal order that says they can't come with in 100 feet of you. In some states if a person you are ignoring set foot on your property, say over the side walk you are legally permitted to shoot them. Trustpassing, so sure it's cool.
Oh really? I didn't know that.
Just so you know though, it's Trespassing, not Trustpassing. LOL. And not everybody obeys restraining orders, particularly not abusive husbands or boyfriends who are willing to do anything to see that their victim never finds happiness.
they can go to jail for not obeying them.
still, that won't stop people who really are out to see that said person isn't happy. I'm speaking from experience.
Keep ignore feature...please. I only used it once accidentally, but keep it anyway. The zone is supposed to be fun, not real life.
That's why the law says you can shoot them. Smile. If 90 days doesn't help the grave will. Sad but the case.
I don't think you can do that everywhere, though.
I think it's worth putting things into perspective here - There's a vast difference between a few annoying quicknotes and the types of behaviors warrenting a restraining order.
Well, definitely. Ignoring people on the zone doesn't mean a restraining order, unless there's more to the story, which is rarely the case.